Stephen Moss

Stephen Moss, CBE, 57, has enjoyed a lifetime of hard work. Having trained as a lawyer, and worked in the City, his passion became the world of business and enterprise. Now Chairman of his family’s property and investment business, Grosvenor Securities, he has used his expertise to develop a number of other successful business and charitable ventures, as he explains to Victoria Schofield.
Interview
When I left school, my ambition was to be a lawyer. I had read law at University, but then after being called to the Bar at Gray’s Inn, I realised a career in the law was not for me, even though I love the law and think that studying law is incredibly useful training. One of the reasons lawyers end up in leadership roles is because they learn how to communicate, how to read a document and paraphrase it; they are also taught how to write well, which are all useful skills. After deciding not to become a lawyer, I spent two years at the London Business School in Regent’s Park, where I had the most stimulating time studying, before going to work in the City.
Your educational experiences have given you some very firm ideas about university education, haven’t they?
Yes, the two years I spent studying for an MBA, in terms of what we packed into business school, including work experience in the holidays, made me realise that university should be two years not three or four. If you really apply yourself, you can accomplish the work in a far shorter space of time. If, for example, undergraduate degrees were just two years, it would save the public exchequer a lot of money, students wouldn’t get into such debt and it would be less strain on parents. Anyway, after business school I went into corporate finance in the City. But I didn’t like the mid 70s City – back, then, there was a really chauvinist atmosphere and I found it offensive how women were treated; and so I ended up joining the family property and investment business which had aspirations to get into other fields. My elder brother ran the property side, and so I cut my teeth in hospitality and travel. We took the business into restaurants, the wine business and parking. One of my first enterprises was Drakes Restaurant in Pont Place which we called the ‘English Restaurant in Chelsea’. At the beginning I was the manager, my wife, Joy, worked with me for a while, and although it was hard, it was amongst the most rewarding customer facing work I have done, other than disc jockeying which I did to pay my way through University! A Disc Jockey can make or break a party and it is the same in the restaurant business. You can make or break a customer’s evening in terms of how you deliver the service. There are very few customer experiences where they are entirely dependent on you but the restaurant business is one of them.
Is that the only involvement you have had with the restaurant industry?
No, when we sold Drakes in the late 1980s, I got involved in 190 Queen’s Gate – with Antony Worrall Thompson, Richard Shepherd of Langan’s Brasserie and Roy Ackerman. I had also been very active on the Restaurant Association with Roy and Robert Carrier – who, you may remember, developed wipe-clean recipe cards – and also with Pru Leith. On a particularly memorable day, we marched down the street in white aprons to 10 Downing Street to demand an end to the old licensing laws, which had meant that after ‘last orders’ at lunchtime you could not be served a drink in a restaurant until it opened again in the evening. Imagine how it was in those days for tourists, when, after a morning’s sightseeing, they sat down for a late lunch and weren’t able to have a drink with their meal?!
That was a landmark change. How exactly did it come about?
We introduced a Private Members Bill in the Lords, sponsored by Viscount Montgomery, who was a good friend of the restaurant industry. He argued that liberalizing the licensing laws would have a beneficial impact on both tourism and employment. Not only did it transform the ability for restaurants to be able to stay open, but it also transformed the lives of waiters and waitresses who previously could only be offered work on unsocial split shift hours. It was really quite an achievement, because Private Members Bills don’t often get through. To get it through the Commons, we had to wait until a particular ‘teetotal’ MP was away for the day and then Robert Banks MP managed to get the bill got through in one sitting. Without our Bill having got through, I am quite sure that the reform of pub licensing hours would not have taken place in 2003.
Tell me about The Springboard Charity which you founded in 1990 and of which you are still Chairman?
When I was working with the Restaurant Association (I am still Vice-President), I got involved in trying to get more home grown kids working in the hospitality sector and so I helped to set up Springboard. We started off in Tin Pan Alley, with help from Lord Forte, with a team going into schools and promoting opportunities in tourism and leisure. There is still a reticence on the part of Mums and Dads to consider jobs in this industry as a permanent career for their children but the introduction of the minimum wage has helped as well as flexible licensing hours. Springboard now employs 40 staff across the UK and we have definitely had an impact. But the challenge continues as there is still a shortage of chefs in the UK despite all the TV exposure for chefs (which has been helpful at one level in terms of showing young people that it is a glamorous and a real profession but it also shows that it is a tough life). So one of the things that Springboard does is to run a competition for 12 to 16 years olds called FutureChef – last year we had almost 8,000 kids cooking across the UK and the standard was extraordinary. Winners tend to be 14 or 15 years old and they then have the potential to get very serious roles in the industry, cooking, for example, at Gordon Ramsay’s restaurants or at Le Manoir aux Quat’ Saisons. Bringing vocational qualifications into schools in a serious way will take some time, because a lot of people are still dumming it down as being a second class qualification; but there are kids who are hugely talented but not suited to academic work, who could be stars in hospitality. It can also do wonders for UK plc’s productivity and job creation.
At the same time, you were growing another business, BCP, of which you became Managing Director and which you built into the country’s largest airport parking booking service?
Leisure travel started to explode in the early 1980s and we spotted a unique opportunity to create pre-booking of car parking through travel agents. In those days you had to pay in advance with cheques and postal orders! But it grew to become a million bookings business. We started off using our own sites and then we began to promote other peoples car parks, pre booking for travel agents like Thomas Cook and Thomson, and then extended the business laterally into airport lounges and airport transfers. Together with a couple of very good competitors, we had cornered the market before the world wide web opened up the pre-booked market to airport authorities and web wizards, and so, having sold the business, I left the world of parking in 2007.
You are now a Director of CallUma, the leading multilingual traveller support service.
Having left BCP, I was still involved in The Springboard Charity, and didn’t want to go back to being a CEO any more, as I was already chairman of our family business, so I started to re invent myself as non- Executive Director and advisor to businesses. One of the first I came across was CallUma – Call [a] Universal Multilingual Assistant – which provides translation and information services for the businessman or the leisure traveller. The concept came to its’ MD Tony Partridge when he found himself in a remote villa in Spain with a seriously ill daughter. He didn’t speak Spanish, didn’t know the 999 equivalent or where their local hospital was. He subsequently realised that there must be lots of people who go abroad, who find themselves in similar situations, and who need to have basic questions answered for them in the appropriate language. And so we have built a business around mobile telephony. You have unlimited use of a text service. You can ask any question in the world relating to any country in the world and we will respond; if you get into trouble, you can type ‘Help’ and then the name of the country and we will contact you immediately with a translator. To date, we have 87 per cent of the countries in the world covered. On the back of this, we have built a multilanguage luggage and key tracking service. People don’t realise it, but an estimated 1 in 50 pieces of luggage gets lost and billions of pounds of airline money is wasted. We even have a method for tracking kids. If a parents subscribe with us – for as little as £4.99 a year, little Johnny will have a wrist band with a unique number so that if he gets lost, and another adult finds him, contact can immediately be made with his parent.
You seem to have been very determined in what you have done and also very successful, what powerful influences do you think you have had?
In terms of putting something back into the community, if one is in the fortunate place to be able to spare the time, there is no question that my father’s philosophy influenced me. He was very active in public affairs and gave back to the community by being active in local government and Chairman of the Association of County Councils. I certainly owe my interest in spending a significant part of time on not for profit work to him. I like being creative and I think that is probably why I wasn’t suited to being a lawyer or banker!! I love building businesses, particularly consumer facing business. I get a kick out of it, making people have an enjoyable experience.
In terms of communicating do you think we are becoming better or worse at actually talking to each other?
There is not enough face to face contact. People aren’t using the telephone as much as they should. Although I love to use the telephone, we are all so bombarded with emails which you feel require an instant response so that you tend to deal with emails first before you hit the telephone; of course in a way it is more convenient, because when you use the telephone you can’t always be sure the person you want to speak to is available, so then you send an email, or text; but all of this works against human contact and creating relationships. If you don’t talk to someone, you can’t form a relationship.
Obviously your faith is very important to you and in 2008 you were elected as Chair of the Movement for Reform Judaism? Are you despondent at how divisive religion has sometimes become in society?
No, I am not despondent. I think there are fundamentalists in both the secular and religious worlds. I think neither is helpful. I think the most important thing is respecting our differences. What one can get out of faith, other than spiritual belief, are some core building blocks to leading a better life and helping the world to be a better place. You can get them out of the teachings of any faith, whether Jewish, Christian, Muslim or Buddhist – how to have good relationships and how important it is to help others heal the world. You can, of course, do the same thing without belonging to a faith or believing in God. What I object to is people saying that there is only one right answer. There is no one right answer – there are a multiplicity of approaches. What is important is to work together for the common good and to respect each other’s beliefs. Where I think faith based communities have the edge is that they tend to be more family and community based. However, sometimes that can go too far and lead to a ghetto mentality. Ultimately, it is all about balance.
Posted by Greg Voller on 27th April, 2010.
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